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Pumped Hydro
« on: December 26, 2022, 01:46:35 pm »
Pumped hydro cannot provide the frequency and voltage stabilization services of a lithium-ion battery, but it can store energy for months or even years, something no ordinary battery can do, not even the ultra long lasting iron-air batteries from Form Energy.
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December 26, 2022 By Steve Hanley 👍

The Making Of A Pumped Hydro Water Battery In Switzerland — With Video

The Nant de Drace pumped hydro facility high in the Swiss Alps is now online and helping Europe cope with an energy emergency.

SNIPPETS:

We humans have figured out a way of releasing millions of years of stored 🦖 energy in less than two centuries and then wonder why our activity is disrupting the natural rhythms of the Earth. Well, duh, people!

Many wonder why publications like CleanTechnica are such gloomsters, always nattering on about climate change leading to an overheating planet that will no longer be able to support human life. They think we are making this stuff up just to garner some extra clicks on the internet. In truth, we are like canaries in the coal mine —
harbingers of a calamity that will befall us all if we continue to act as though we are the masters of the Earth, when in fact it is the other way around.

Renewable Is A Matter Of Opinion

Coal, oil, and gas are renewable, if we are willing to wait millions of years for them. But if we want clean energy that does not disrupt the delicate balance of nature, we have no choice but to discover new ways of harvesting the nearly infinite power of the sun. Solar panels and wind turbines do precisely that. The problem is, they are intermittent whereas the society we have constructed demands instantaneous access to energy — particularly electricity — every second of every day. That means we need to figure out ways of storing some of that solar and wind power.

There are dozens of ways of doing that. We can make batteries to store some of that energy. We can fill train cars with rocks and haul them up mountains so they can generate electricity as they glide back down. We can pile massive concrete blocks on top of each other and use them to turn generators as they are lowered. Or we can fill large reservoirs with water when electricity is abundant and cheap so the water can flow downhill later, spinning giant electrical turbines as it goes.

Pumped Hydro 14 Years In The Making

That is precisely what a consortium led by electricity producer Alpiq and Swiss Federal Railways have done. After more than 14 years, the Nant de Drance pumped hydro installation is complete and in operation. “The output is more than 80% — for every kilowatt-hour of electricity used to pump the water upstream, 0.8 is fed into the grid,” explains Alain Sauthier, chief engineer and director of the Nant de Drance facility. “The ⚡ electric storage capacity of the reservoir surpasses that of 400,000 electric car batteries.”   ... ...

Here’s a time lapse video that shows the construction process.


Full article:
https://cleantechnica.com/2022/12/25/the-making-of-a-pumped-hydro-water-battery-in-switzerland-with-video/

Ian-ya  
The world looks in vain for US to be leader in AGW.
Yet US is consumer in RE equipment like PV.
And is sulking over trade with China.
And US politics is very broken, capitalism partly broken, culture distracted, media is propaganda & trivial, just junk marketing.
There is no way US will ramp up RE equipment production in time to achieve 80% RE electricity by 2030. At least 50% will need to be PV.
Methane gas doesn’t count as RE. Stranded assets.
Woke people don’t line up to work in factories.
Wake up people. You are going wrong way.

AGelbert > Ian-ya  
The "world" in general is not the issue; the morally bankrupt ideology of profit over people and planet is the issue. The PROBLEM is the complete embrace by TPTB in ALL COUNTRIES, not just the US. of Social Darwinism. 

While it is true that the bought and paid fors (by Wall Street) in the US are doing all they can to keep 🦖 polluters "subsidized" at the ☠️ expense of we-the-people (AND the rest of the victims in the biosphere of Hydrocarbon Fuels "Industry" CAUSED Catastrophic Climate Change), while the transiton to 100% Renewable Energy continues at a pace indistinguishable from the speed of a snail in molasses, we must identify the CORE ideology that spurs these polluters to cling tenaciously to their biosphere degrading profit over people and planet insanity.

Isaiah didn't know beans about Renewable Energy, but he understood quite clearly what God thinks of those Social Darwinist arrogant elite humans that worship themselves instead of the Creator of the Universe:

Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you. ~ Isaiah 41:24.

A fellow named Rex Payne was not impressed with the above quote from Isaiah, to put it mildly. I am certain many readers, you included, would agree with his comment. Below is his comment and my respectful reply. I post it here for the benefit of people of good will like Steve Hanley ✨ (and others 👍 at Cleantechnica who write articles and post and comment on said articles). I will not respond to any replies to my comment. Have a nice day.
   
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Rex Payne December 24, 2022
Then is not the Lord God, who hath chosen His people, an abomination?

Anthony G. Gelbert December 24, 2022
No, the Social Darwinist world view is the abomination. Isaiah was simply voicing God's view of the arrogance of all morally bankrupt humans who worship themselves instead of the Creator of the Universe.

Here are some quotes by erudite writers that clearly expose the pernicious Social Darwinist ROT destroying the fabric of our society:

"The American idea, meanwhile — descended from slavery — was just the opposite: only the strong should survive, and the weak should perish. Therefore, nobody deserved anything at all — even the basics — because human life had no inherent or intrinsic worth. Only the strong deserved such things — and they were the ones who could dominate and exploit and control everyone else." -- Umair Haque

"Trump’s failure to go strong with masking, “lockdowns,” and invocation of the Defense Production Act (to order the mass manufacture of medical supplies) reflected not only his desire to keep the economy going (ironically enough since failure to undertake proper public health measures deepened the economic impact of the virus) for his re-election but also his rejection of science and his racist, Social Darwinian, and pre-genocidal approval of how COVID-19 especially killed the old, the infirm, the poor, and the nonwhite and how the virus initially targeted big multiracial urban and Democratic areas." -- Paul Street February 7, 2021

AGelbert NOTE: "Free-dumb", as described below by Paul Street, is indistinguishable from Social Darwinism in action:

"America became obsessed with free-dumb: the idea of freedom as the removal of all restraint, the right to harm others, the ability to do anything you please, no matter how destructive, toxic, foolish, or inane. Americans — in the vast, vast majority — think of freedom in a way that by now the rest of the rich world and much of the poor one regards as dangerously backwards. Freedom is the right not to ever have to cooperate, to invest, to act for the common wealth or common good. Why is America the only rich society in the world that doesn’t have effectively any public goods? No functioning healthcare, retirement, higher education, and so forth? Because of free-dumb. “I won’t pay for their healthcare, education, retirement!!” Why not? “They’re weak! They’re liabilities and burdens!! They cost me money!!” But wait, don’t you understand that means you won’t have those very same things yourself — because such social institutions are for everyone? “I don’t care! I won’t reward weakness and laziness! Such people need to be punished! And I should be free not to have support the weak!”" -- Paul Street February 7, 2021

"Environmental decline is a threat to the everyone. If people conceived of themselves as members of this community, rather than as self-interested individuals, then ending environmental decline might take precedence over individual self-realization. Before dismissing this formulation as utopian, we, the people, do constitute the community that is threatened by environmental decline. The social tension here isn’t between individual and group interests. It is between people who understand themselves to be members of a community and 🦖🎩🦍 those who don’t. While granting differences by class on the road to environmental Armageddon, ‘we’ are the community that will be annihilated. In this sense individualism is the ultimate authoritarian conceit." -- Rob Urie February 12, 2021

"Look at our world, our country, our interactions with each other… … this is not the mark of a healthy society, and if these are the self-appointed leaders of this flaming meteor… ... it’s time to move on... ... Let’s relegate these fools to history. They perpetuate a narrative that it is right to behave in a strictly selfish, exploitative manner towards all. We simply can’t survive it any longer. Things will change because they have to -- Kathleen Wallace

So then, Rex Payne, do you agree that human society MUST embrace Ethical Behavior as the indispensable condition (sine qua non) in order to survive and overcome, the ABOMINATION of Social Darwinism?

If not, you can stop reading now. If so, please read on. All people of good will who truly want to change things for the better should ponder the words below, of Spiros Zodhiates, seriously, prudently leaving aside preconceived (i.e. formed BEFORE having the evidence for its truth or usefulness) notions of the Gospel of Luke. Ethical behavior is not optional for people of good will, PERIOD.

Spiros Zodhiates,Th.D, wrote the folllowing introduction to the Gospel of Luke in the 1988 edition of the Hebrew-Greek Key Study Bible. Notice the contrast of the behavior of Jesus with what the "modern" Social Darwinist (See; 🦍 "Apex Predators") empathy rejecting, morally bankrupt, "might equals right" worshipping ideology:

"The Most Beautiful Book Ever Written"

The Gospel of Luke portrays Jesus as the long awaited Messiah of the Jews and also the Savior of all mankind. Special emphasis is placed upon the kindness of Jesus toward women, the poor, the outcasts, the weak, and those who were suffering in different ways. In addition, the book is filled with expressions of praise and prayer. Luke's account had a universal appeal, aspecially to the Gentiles. Jesus is presented as the perfect Man who is truly interested in every person on earth, no matter what his station in life.. Luke was aimed at the Greek mind, and therefore had to be written in a comprehensive, logical, and orderly manner. There are portions of the book which approach Classical Greek Literature. Luke has been called "the most beautiful book ever written."

There is little doubt that the author was Luke, the "beloved physician" (Col. 4:14). From the context of this passage we learn that Luke was "not of the circumcision" and, consequently, he may have been the only Gentile writer of the New Testament. Paul refers to him as his "fellow worker" in Philemon 24. Several pasages indicate that he was a close companion to the Apostle during the missionary journys of the book of Acts. He was with Paul until the very end (II Tim. 4:11). Judging fom the style of his Greek, we surmise that he was the most cultured of all the writers of the Gospel.

Since tomorrow is Christmas, this graphic with a quote from Luke is appropriate.
God Bless you, Rex Payne.
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🌞 The insane ⚡ potential of Pumped Storage 💧 Hydropower.
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2023, 04:10:18 pm »
The ⚡ insane potential of Pumped Storage 💧 Hydropower.


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Pumped Storage Hydro had, until recently, been all but written off as a fully exploited dead-end for energy storage expansion. According to new research though, it turns nothing could be further from the truth! It could literally be the lynch pin to get us to 100% renewable global electricity grids without having to pillage the earth (and deep seabed) of critical minerals.

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AGelbert COMMENT: 👍💐 Thank you for this reality based video.

Of course this proven technology of pumped hydro can work, even at the relatively small scale of olympic swimming pool size "modular" units on mountain sides in California, the Rockies and several locatons along the Andes in South America. If a large pumped hydro system was set up on a mountain side in a desert area like Chile, evaporation problems could be prevented, as you alluded to, by have foating solar panels on both reservoirs.

Considering the math for the 3 megawatt capacity system you mentioned of two olympic sized swimming pool reservoirs with 500 meters of gravity power available providing up to 3.5 megawatt hours of storage, if the capacity is linear by vertical distance, a system within a 50 meter tall building in a city could provide a tenth as much, which would probably be ample for said building. Swimming pools even larger than olympic size is old hat on the top of many tall apartment buildings in many parts of the world.

Also, in landslide prone areas like California, these pumped hydro modular systems, would, in addition to providing cheap 100% renewable energy with low maintenance costs (compared to solar, wind and chemical battery storage systems), function as mountain terrain reinforcing structures. It's a WIN WIN! 🌞
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So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Matthew 7:12