News:

Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for justice: for they shall be filled. Mine eye also shall see my desire on mine enemies, and mine ears shall hear my desire of the wicked that rise up against me. The glory of the Lord shall endure for ever: the Lord shall rejoice in his works. He looketh on the earth, and it trembleth: he toucheth the hills, and they smoke. I will sing unto the Lord as long as I live: I will sing praise to my God while I have my being. My meditation of him shall be sweet: I will be glad in the Lord. Let sinners be consumed out of the earth, and let the wicked be no more. Bless thou the Lord, O my soul. Praise ye the Lord.

Author Topic: The Irreducible Complexity ☝🏻 of Life Preserving Cellular Machines  (Read 119 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

AGelbert

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3356
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Colchester, Vermont
    • SoberThinking
Welcome to the Sober Thinking Forum.

This is the continuation of the Renewable Revolution Forum, with the same categories and boards arrangement. In order to provide topic thread continuity, this post will be duplicated in frequently viewed topic threads along with selected posts from that topic at the Renewable Revolution Forum. I will gradually, as time permits, copy pertinent articles posted there, update them, and post them here for your convenience.

I have no intention of closing the Renewable Revolution Forum, so any links you have to posts, articles and graphics there are valid for the time being. Nevertheless, I advise you to 🦉 copy and save any posts, articles and graphics that you wish to preserve for posting somewhere else on the internet. I am 75 years old. As long as my spirit hasn't permanently left my body, the Sober Thinking Forum will be kept open.   

Although guests are encouraged to post and become members, this forum is mostly a library reference of important historical information and timeless articles that you are encouraged to pass on, with or without attribution.

In addition, relevant recent news will be posted almost daily, so be sure to 🧐 stop by often.

« Last Edit: March 29, 2022, 04:25:28 pm by AGelbert »
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Matthew 7:12

Share on Facebook Share on Twitter


AGelbert

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3356
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Colchester, Vermont
    • SoberThinking

Protein synthesis involves preventing folding and then exact folding. All proteins have a three dimensional and highly complex folding arrangement. If it is not exact, regardless of the same chemicals being present, it will not function.

So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Matthew 7:12

AGelbert

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3356
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Colchester, Vermont
    • SoberThinking
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Matthew 7:12

AGelbert

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3356
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Colchester, Vermont
    • SoberThinking
Dr. Richard Lumsden On Evolution


Dr. Richard Lumsden -  professor of parasitology and cell biology at Tulane University in Louisiana.  Served as Dean of the Graduate school of biological sciences. Published about 90 peer-reviewed papers and was awarded the Henry Baldwin Ward medal for his work in parasitology.   

Visit my website! http://ScienceProvesGod.net
« Last Edit: September 19, 2022, 01:49:31 pm by AGelbert »
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Matthew 7:12

AGelbert

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3356
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Colchester, Vermont
    • SoberThinking
Scientifc Proof the Universe is NOT Random 😊
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2022, 05:16:41 pm »
I've got God's NUMBER. It's 1.618.
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Matthew 7:12

AGelbert

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3356
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Colchester, Vermont
    • SoberThinking
👨‍🔬 Evolution’s “black box” 🧐
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2022, 08:47:14 pm »

Secrets of the Cell with Michael Behe (Season 1 Compilation)


Discovery Science 159K subscribers

The cell is what biochemist Michael Behe has called evolution’s “black box,” its spectacularly complex, superbly designed contents unknown to Charles Darwin. When the box was opened by modern science, it was a turning-point moment for the articulation of the modern theory of intelligent design. A revolution followed, fundamentally challenging how scientists discuss the history of life. Join Dr. Behe as he explores the mysteries of the cell, the limits of evolution, and how the cell points to intelligent design. This show is a re-edited compilation of the first five episodes of Behe's Secrets of the Cell YouTube series. Now you can watch the first five episodes all at once!

============================
The Discovery Science News Channel is the official Youtube channel of Discovery Institute's Center for Science & Culture. The CSC is the institutional hub for scientists, educators, and inquiring minds who think that nature supplies compelling evidence of intelligent design. The CSC supports research, sponsors educational programs, defends free speech, and produce articles, books, and multimedia content. For more information visit https://www.discovery.org/id/
http://www.evolutionnews.org/
http://www.intelligentdesign.org/

Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/discoverycsc/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/discoverycsc/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/discoverycsc/
« Last Edit: May 08, 2022, 08:59:14 pm by AGelbert »
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Matthew 7:12

AGelbert

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3356
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Colchester, Vermont
    • SoberThinking


👨‍🔬 Biochemist Joe Deweese Explains the Topoisomerase Molecular Machine

12,198 views Feb 17, 2022

Discovery Science 159K subscribers

Biochemist Joe Deweese explains the topoisomerase molecular machine and answers questions submitted by viewers from around the world. The interview is conducted by Casey Luskin, Associate Director of the Center for Science and Culture at Discovery Institute.

Topoisomerase II is an extremely important enzyme in your cells that is designed to untangle knots and supercoils in DNA strands that arise during replication and transcription. It does this by grabbing two tangled DNA segments, holding one steady while it breaks the other segment in two, and then passing the first segment through the break. The second segment is then reconnected, and the two DNA segments are released, having been successfully untangled. Without topoisomerases, chromosomes would become an impossible mess, making DNA replication, transcription, and cell duplication impossible.

The carefully orchestrated untangling activity of topoisomerase II doesn’t happen by accident. This enzyme is a molecular machine that only works because its amino acid sequence is highly specified to provide a special shape and structure necessary for its function. In other words, topoisomerase enzymes contain high levels of complex and specified information—a hallmark of intelligent design.

Joe Deweese received his BS in Biochemistry from Freed-Hardeman University and his PhD in Biochemistry from Vanderbilt University. For twelve years, he taught in the Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences at Lipscomb University. His teaching included biochemistry, molecular biology, genetics, anticancer pharmacology, and cellular physiology. Deweese is starting a new role in August, 2021 as Professor of Biochemistry and Director of Undergraduate Research at Freed-Hardeman University. His research interests include characterizing the mechanism of anti-cancer agents, especially those that target topoisomerase II. Recent studies from his lab have focused on etoposide metabolites, thiosemicarbazones, and natural product derivatives. Currently, his work is focused on examining the differences between the two versions of topoisomerase II found in humans. He and his wife, Liz, have two children.

Casey Luskin is a geologist and an attorney with graduate degrees in science and law, giving him expertise in both the scientific and legal dimensions of the debate over evolution. He earned his PhD in Geology from the University of Johannesburg, and BS and MS degrees in Earth Sciences from the University of California, San Diego, where he studied evolution extensively at both the graduate and undergraduate levels. His law degree is from the University of San Diego, where he focused his studies on First Amendment law, education law, and environmental law.

============================
The Discovery Science News Channel is the official Youtube channel of Discovery Institute's Center for Science & Culture. The CSC is the institutional hub for scientists, educators, and inquiring minds who think that nature supplies compelling evidence of intelligent design. The CSC supports research, sponsors educational programs, defends free speech, and produce articles, books, and multimedia content. For more information visit https://www.discovery.org/id/
http://www.evolutionnews.org/
http://www.intelligentdesign.org/

Follow us on Facebook and Twitter:
Twitter: @discoverycsc
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/discoverycsc/

Visit other Youtube channels connected to the Center for Science & Culture
Discovery Institute: https://www.youtube.com/user/Discover...
Dr. Stephen C. Meyer: https://www.youtube.com/user/DrStephe...
The Magician's Twin - CS Lewis & Evolution: https://www.youtube.com/user/cslewisweb
Darwin's Heretic - Alfred Russel Wallace: https://www.youtube.com/user/AlfredRW...
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Matthew 7:12

AGelbert

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3356
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Colchester, Vermont
    • SoberThinking
Michael Behe 👨‍🔬 Unravels the Mystery of Biological Information (Secrets of the Cell, Ep. 8)


Discovery Science 205K subscribers Aug 22, 2023

Join renowned biochemist Michael Behe as he explores the mystery of biological information in Episode 8 of his popular video series “Secrets of the Cell.” In “Information: The Foundation of Life,” Dr. Behe unravels the mystery of how information drives the development and operation of our cells, our teeth, our bones, and much more.

More episodes can be viewed at SECRETS OF THE CELL or   
 • Someone Must Have the Answer!

Michael J. Behe is Professor of Biological Sciences at Lehigh University in Pennsylvania and a Senior Fellow at Discovery Institute’s Center for Science and Culture. He received his Ph.D. in Biochemistry from the University of Pennsylvania in 1978. Behe’s current research involves delineation of design and natural selection in protein structures. For more about Behe and his research visit https://michaelbehe.com/.

============================
The Discovery Science News Channel is the official Youtube channel of Discovery Institute's Center for Science & Culture. The CSC is the institutional hub for scientists, educators, and inquiring minds who think that nature supplies compelling evidence of intelligent design. The CSC supports research, sponsors educational programs, defends free speech, and produce articles, books, and multimedia content. For more information visit https://www.discovery.org/id/
http://www.evolutionnews.org/
http://www.intelligentdesign.org/

Follow us on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/discoverycsc/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/discoverycsc/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/discoverycsc/

Visit other Youtube channels connected to the Center for Science & Culture
Discovery Institute:   
 / discoveryinstitute 
Dr. Stephen C. Meyer:   
 / drstephenmeyer 
« Last Edit: August 22, 2023, 03:24:58 pm by AGelbert »
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Matthew 7:12

AGelbert

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3356
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Colchester, Vermont
    • SoberThinking
🤔 We've made life in the lab, right❓ 🙄
« Reply #8 on: August 23, 2023, 12:03:00 pm »
We've made life in the lab, right? ??? Scientists with faith + abiogenesis theory of origin of life


Dr. James Tour 🕊️ 84.5K 22,563 views  Aug 15, 2023
Is the belief that scientists have created a cell in a lab taking on aspects of a religious conviction? Dr. James Tour, a renowned scientist, delves into the fascinating interplay between faith and the origin of life debates. He navigates the complex terrain of being a scientist while holding beliefs in a God  and explores how methodological naturalism fits into this equation. Dr. Tour's critique of origin of life media hype prompts intriguing questions about the current state of scientific understanding. How does his outspoken stance impact the ongoing discourse surrounding the origins of life?

Originally aired on @FindingTruthChannel.

----

If you would like to support us in creating more content across our different media platforms, we would greatly appreciate any support you can give. Visit https://jesusandscience.org/#Support to learn more.

God bless.

~
https://jesusandscience.org
Dr Tour's Personal Website - http://jmtour.com
Twitter - http://twitter.com/drjamestour
Facebook - http://facebook.com/drjamestour
LinkedIn - http://linkedin.com/in/drjamestour
Instagram - http://instagram.com/drjamestour
Snapchat - http://snapchat.com/add/drjamestour
WeChat - @drjamestour
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Matthew 7:12

AGelbert

  • Administrator
  • *****
  • Posts: 3356
  • Gender: Male
  • Location: Colchester, Vermont
    • SoberThinking
Why Hands-On Chemistry Experiments Can’t Simulate A Prebiotic Earth (Ep. 4)



Stephen Meyer 🕊️ 36K subscribers Aug 23, 2023

When scientists claim they have simulated early earth chemistry to create life from non-life, are they being honest? Enjoy the fourth and final installment in a series of conversations between philosopher of science Dr. Stephen Meyer, author of Signature in the Cell: DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design, and 👨‍🔬🔬  @DrJamesTour 🕊️, a world-leading synthetic organic chemist at Rice University.

In Part 4, Meyer and Tour evaluate the work of chemist Bruce Lipshutz; specifically his work designing surfactant molecules that enable amide/peptide bonds. By itself, Lipshutz’s work developing synthetic techniques for doing chemistry in water is interesting and has value. But for those tempted to think that his work validates chemical evolutionary theories of the origin of life, Tour has bad news. Peptides don’t form in aqueous environments like water. A realistic prebiotic environment would not be capable of producing the reactions necessary to form proteins. And Lipshutz acknowledges this. In their conversation, Tour and Meyer discuss how Lipshutz applies hands-on chemistry that bears no resemblance to the likely conditions of a prebiotic earth. If anything, the work of Lipshutz and others in origin of life research is actually simulating the need for intelligent agency to move simple chemicals in a life-friendly direction. Says Meyer, “Even the modest movement they get towards life seems to be intelligently designed at each step of the way, and even the vocabulary will sometimes reveal that: ribozyme engineer, designer surfactants. Very curious!”

CONTEXT
These videos were recorded in Nov and Dec 2022. Dr. Tour has recently been engaged in a series of back-and-forth responses to attacks on his work from YouTube science communicator Dave Farina. This has given Tour a new opportunity to critique experts in the field of abiogenesis and allows an interested public to better evaluate both sides of the argument.

Philosopher of science Dr. Stephen Meyer hosts these engaging conversations. Meyer is author of the 2009 book Signature in the Cell: DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design, which explores theories attempting to explain the origin of the first life. So Meyer is the perfect candidate to unpack Tour’s expertise and draw out key insights.

MORE RESOURCES
Dr. James Tour’s lecture at the 2019 Dallas Science & Faith Conference: The Mystery of the Origin of Life
 
 • James Tour: The Mystery of the Origin... 

Dr. Tour’s video series: Addressing Abiogenesis (Season 1)
 
 • Addressing Abiogenesis: Season 1 

Dr. Tour’s video series continues: Addressing Abiogenesis (Season 2)
 
 • Addressing Abiogenesis: Season 02 

Video edited by Eric Herron, Philosopher Films.

======================================================
This is the official Youtube page of Dr. Stephen Meyer, director of Discovery Institute's Center for Science & Culture.  Meyer received his Ph.D. in the philosophy of science from the University of Cambridge. His latest book is Return of the God Hypothesis: Three Scientific Discoveries that Reveal the Mind Behind the Universe (2021), see https://returnofthegodhypothesis.com/.

Meyer is also the author of The New York Times best selling book Darwin's Doubt: The Explosive Origin of Animal Life and the case for Intelligent Design (HarperOne, 2013), and Signature In The Cell: DNA and the Evidence for Intelligent Design (2009). For more information about Dr. Meyer, his research, and his books visit https://stephencmeyer.org/.

The CSC is the institutional hub for scientists, educators, and inquiring minds who think that nature supplies compelling evidence of intelligent design. The CSC supports research, sponsors educational programs, defends free speech, and produce articles, books, and multimedia content.

Visit other YouTube channels connected to the Center for Science & Culture
Discovery Institute:   
 / discoveryinstitute 
The Magician's Twin - CS Lewis & Evolution:   
 / cslewisweb 
Darwin's Heretic - Alfred Russel Wallce:   
 / alfredrwallaceid 

For more information visit
-- https://www.discovery.org/id/
-- http://www.evolutionnews.org/
-- http://www.intelligentdesign.org/

Follow the CSC on Facebook and Twitter:
Twitter: @discoverycsc
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/discoverycsc/
So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Matthew 7:12